BODY LANGUAGE: Flirt / men or women flirting- interpret / read meaning, signs, tips, etc.* Volume #2

Vol. 2,  No. 38, Sunday, February 12th 2012

TITLE: “BODY LANGUAGE: Flirt / men or women flirting- interpret / read meaning, signs, tips, etc.*Volume #2” 


Valentine’s Day is fast approaching … two days and counting. To help you in the mating dance, I wrote my first blog post titled, “FLIRTING TIPS 101 FOR GIRLS & BOYS,   WOMEN & MEN:  I say have fun, but be careful!*”(Vol. 2,  No. 22, October 23, 2011). Last week, I did an update, by adding pointers about reading body language. Reading the signs incorrectly leads to missteps. Understanding the non-verbal communications spells greater success at love. I had a lot of material … Here is my 2nd installment.   It might give you one or more ’Aha’ moments.  Let’s go.  (Editor’s Note: This is part of a continuing series on dating and relationships.)     
PREVIEW (Sunday, Feb. 19th 2012): If looking for Mr./Ms. Right, I have an opinion. Let’s dialogue. If you want straight talk,  come on over. Let’s talk. I’ll start the conversation with my blog post. Then, you can have your say… you can have the floor… Why don’t you leave me a comment?  I’ll try not to interrupt. (Editor’s Note: This is part of a continuing series on dating and relationships.)  


During the time that I was attending my single events, I would observe, from a distance, a man putting the moves on a woman.  It was interesting to watch. But when I was the object of a man’s attention, it was personal … and I fretted a little. I knew that if a man was interested in me – I needed to look for hints at what he was looking for. That was my focus and the number one piece of information that I wanted. I tried to pay attention to his signals, if any. I asked myself, “Was he presenting himself as somebody respectable?”
When all else failed, I went with my intuition.
During my single days, I was told many times by my male friends that I was sending out the wrong signals. Apparently, my body language was saying: “I’m not open to meeting a man. Don’t come near me, I do not want to be approached.”  I realized that I had to change.  I needed to transmit a ‘come-on-over’ message.  Soon, I was meeting men.  Alas, my body language was now giving out the right signals.
Body language is a form of communication.  Although I don’t speak it well and I don’t understand it well,  I recognize that I do it … we all do. But some of us do it better than others.  While I’m not an expert – I wanted to learn more about reading and sending body language. Now I want to share with you all what I have learned.
THE AUTHOR: Tonya Reiman
Tonya Reiman experienced life as a child born in the sixties. She attended Pace University and graduated with a General Studies degree.  A life changing experience was an incident when a psychology professor came ‘nose- to- nose’ with her in order to demonstrate the significance of “personal space”. She is a Certified Hypnotist, holding a NGH certification; she had a private practice, No Boundaries Hypnosis, in Smithtown, Long Island. She is an author and motivational speaker. She is a political commentator, featured as a contributor on The O’Reilly Factor and on the Fox News Channel She penned articles on body language published in Cosmopolitan, Life & Style, Time, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Woman’s World and Positive Thinking. (Source: Wikipedia the free encyclopedia) –
Several of her books are:
•”The Yes Factor: Get What You Want, Say What You Mean, the Power of Persuasive Communication”.
•”The Power of Body Language: How to Succeed in Every Business and Social Encounter”
THE BOOK: “The Body Language of Dating: Read His Signals, Send Your Own, and Get the Guy” by Tonya Reiman
I started with the question: “What attracts the opposite sexes to one another?” I also wondered what makes us attractive. In this book, Reiman, a history lover, considered the topic of human attraction and seduction and asks how it’s changed through the years. She looks at body parts both male and female. She wants to know, if and why, each is attractive or unattractive. She recognizes dating success or failure.  She explains that attraction is: a)  Biological; b)  Physical; c) Chemical; d) Mental.  Her message is also that attraction: is: e) Detectable; f) Manageable and g) Maneuverable. Reiman has made a contibution to the knowedge on seduction, conversation, connection, and enduring romance. It’s a ‘HOW-TO’ guide. If ovcr 18, you have a learners’ permit. Read it and meet Cupid sooner than later.  
Personal Comments
  • Winning at love starts at the preliminary round. This is the warm up and flirting is on the menu. If interested, this is where the signal is to be sent. In the dating game, suceess or failure depends upon correctly reading body language and giving off the right non-verbal signals.
  • Flirting is not necessarily an invitation for or offer of sex.  
  • Be conscious that your body language reveals how you feel about others. 
  • Eye contact is one of the most important aspects when you meet someone.  Maintaining the right level comes across as showing courtesy plus the interest in what the person has to say. Holding someone in a long gaze is a sure sign of interest.  Other signals may be more subtle.
  • Once you send an inviting signal to the opposite sex, it’s harder to shut down the opening. It could then get uncomfortable or even dangerous.
  • Learn to read body language correctly. Observe people.  Try to guess what’s on their mind.
  • Look for eye contact, strong hand shake – ask youself, “What is revealed by his or her body language?” He or she is responding to stimuli, consciously or unconsciously.
  • Reading someone clearly is job #1 –  doing this better can save you a lot of headache. 
  • Be careful to send out the right message. Subconsciously, at times, we may be sending the wrong message. 
The Point
The skill is knowing what to look for and being observant.  Learning to read body language is a very useful social skill. The knack is also to make your signals fit your wishes.

Everyone in the dating scene should note:

11. Eye level:

11.1 Eyes:

a) Good: (i). Prolonged glance (as opposed to a quick glance) is an indication of interest; (ii). Moving the eyes sideways is an act that might be bold or flirtatious; (iii). Looking quickly to the right might indicate fascination or a positive remembrance; (iv). Looking up and down is a scanning move, looking for information;
b) Noteworthy: (i).  Looking down – a head down is an indication of shyness. For women, gazing downwards could be a reflex – it could be a defensive or a deferential stance. Or, if in their ‘inspector’ mode, theyprobably are looking at a man’s shoes since footwear -type and condition – is an indicator of personality. (ii). Blinking too much might be a sign of nervousness; (iii). Averting eye contact could be a sign of deceit; (iv). Winking is not cute – it is a defensive manoeuver; (vi). Looking quickly to the left might show any one of: anxiety, fear or lying – you guess. 

c) Bad: (i). Rolling up eyes is a sign of rejection; (ii). Closing eyes is a shut off sign – it indicates a person is exhibiting a contrary attitude and saying: “I will not listen to you or abide by your wishes”. (N.B. However, sometimes, it could be an indication of an intelligent person, taking a moment to think and formulate a good answer.  (iii). Staring hard is behaviour that could be either evasive or indicative of one pulling rank, being aggressive or threatening. (N.B. Staring back is a measured response.)

11.2 Eyebrows: a) Both raised says that he or she would like to talk to you; b) One raised indicates skepticism;
11.3 Movements at face level: a) Over -wearing sun glasses (especially indoors), might be an indication of a desire to hide; b) Stroking finger with forefinger could show deception; c) Holding up a coffee cup could be defensive in order to create something of a barrier;  d) Tugging ear shows indecision and uncertainty, maybe even deceit.
12. Nose:  a) Nose movements: (i). Flaring nose is indication of anger and rage; (ii). Nose in air means feelings of superiority;  (iii). Twisted nose shows disapproval or disgust; (iv). Wrinkled nose shows mild- level disapproval; (b) Contact to nose: (i). Holding nose is a gesture that means that something is rotten; (ii). Touching nose is an indication of someone unsure or hiding something; (iii). Poking finger inside a nostril is not only gross, but maybe an indication that something else is going on; (iv). Putting finger on nose shows feeling of great revulsion;
13. Mouth:
13.1 Types of smile:
a) Small: It shows: (i). Non-aggression; the non-verbal statement is: ”I’m not going to attack you”. (ii). Happiness; (iii). Approval;  (iv). Ease & comfort;
b) Large & open: It shows friendliness; the non-verbal statement is: ”Lets get together”. 
c) Tight: It could show: (i). Embarrassment- something internal is not being exhibited externally;
d) Angry: It’s a combo indicator of someone pretending to be positive, but in reality, feeling extreme displeasure. This is passive- aggressive behavior.
e) Nervous: It shows discomfort;
13.2 Movements:
a) Puckering lips: It’s the start of a kiss; it’s disclosure of an intent to be romantic … you connect the dots.
b) Pursing lips: It shows tenseness or disapproval;
c) Biting lips: It’s an indicator of great anger;
d) Starting to laugh: It could be a precursor of inflicting punishment;
13.3 Contact to mouth:
a) Finger on lower lip: The non-verbal statement is: ”I want to talk to you”.
b) Hand over mouth:  This suggests to me that a lie is being told; The non-verbal statement is: ”I am looking for a substitute”.
14. Head movements:
a) Nodding shows agreement. The non-verbal statement is: ”I am listening to you”.
b) Resting head on hands might indicate tiredness; the non-verbal statement is: ”I cannot understand what you are saying, but that I want to do so.”
c) Rubbing neck is a sign of uncertainty;
d) Stroking one’s chin might signify a state of intense reflection and pensiveness;
e) Rubbing one’s chin might be an indication of disbelief of what is being told;
f) Yawning – a social yawn could signify mild stress. 
15. Arms:
a) Showing hands is a positive signal. It’s s a fact that a person in authority like law enforcement always asks to see a suspect’s hands. It illustrates openness by a person, such building trust.
b) Lifting up arms is a movement that is strong and dominant.
c) Touching someone on the shoulder is also dominant.
d) Placing arms behind head exposing body core shows no fear. This wide-open gesture indicates an outgoing person, someone confident and extraordinary.
e) Putting arm over next chair shows someone taking over more space. The non-verbal statement is: ”I am in control”.
f) Holding hands behind the back signifies confidence and ease in exposing one’s body core. It also shows leadership and a sense of control. This is typical of Prince Phillip, consort of Queen Elizabeth.
g) Holding one hand above the other shows frustration.  
h) Folding arms in front is a defensive manoeuver;  the non-verbal statement is: “I am not happy, I see negativity maybe even full- blown dislike. I am impatient to get away from you”.
i) Crossing arms is an indication of anxiety.
j) Putting palm out is a negative response. The non-verbal statement is: ”I don’t know if I can help you”.
k) Placing arms on hips and smiling is not a good sign if a man – he is looking for an arrangement with a woman, ‘bimbo style’.
l) Showing armpits by a woman siugnifies a sexual opening. The non-verbal statement is: “Let’s do it!”
16. Posture:
16.1 Standing:
a) Standing-up straight with good posture signifies someone positive and reliable. I think standing- up straight and tall makes one look bigger to the other person.
16.2 Sitting
a) Sitting-up straight, both feet on the ground and straight back signifies rigidity and persistence over and above, a positive attitude and reliability.
b) Sprawling out suggests someone negative and undisciplined.
c) Crossing legs (by a man) shows stubbornness. 
d) Hugging a leg (by a man) is a positive sign. The non-verbal statement is: “I am ready for the coming encounter”.
e) Sitting on the edge of a seat signifies eagerness and readiness to leave;  the non-verbal statement is: “I’m going to be going”.  
f) Leaning forward signifies someone being adventurous, a real risk taker; the non-verbal statement is: “I am opportunistic”.
g) Straddling a chair (by a man) signifies that I am not conventional. The non-verbal statement is: “I’m in my house and talking charge”.
h) Putting hand under chair (by a man) signifies that he is interested.
17. Proxemics: This is the space between people. If intimate, it starts at 18 inches going to 4 feet. A distance of 12 feet is a bit much. Closer signifies interest and further shows disinterest. Appropriate signifies respect and inappropriate shows lack of concern over social propriety.   
18. Body positioning: 
a) Taking big steps signifies confidence and individualism (as opposed to little steps which indicates much less confidence.) The non-verbal statement is: “I am forthright!”
b) Taking little steps signifies much less confidence. The non-verbal statement is: “I am cautious!”.
c) Leaning back is closed.
d) Clamping back at neck is a gesture showing anger.
e) Leaning against doorway is  showing interest and desire to make the deal. The non-verbal statement is: “Don’t leave… let’s continue the conversation”.
19. Body Movements
a) Copying the acts of another person – this is where a person duplicates the movements of someone else. This mirroring effect, on the surface shows interest and is complimentary, but matching could foretell lack of self perception of self -worth. Someone who exhibits  copycat behavior doesn’t see himself or herself highly. The non-verbal statement is: “Use caution”. 
b) Tapping foot on floor:  The standstill action signifies the desire to go. The non-verbal statement is: “I am bored …I want to run…”
c) Wrapping legs around signifies a sense of attachment. The non-verbal statement is: “I am related…”
d) Crossing leg on leg high on the knee, with soul of shoe visible: This is bad.  The act of showing the soul of your shoe is highly disrespectful to people particularly in the Middle East.
e) Hugging one’s foot: This signifies someone a bit panicky  The non-verbal statement is: “I am afraid of this situation..” 
20. Hands
a) Hand Shakes: (i). Firm hand shake – this is good; the non-verbal statement is: “Yes”. (ii). Soft but firm, social hand shake  (suitable for a woman) – this is good; the non-verbal statement is: “Yes”.  (iii). Bone-shattering shake – this is extremely offensive; the non-verbal statement is: “No”. (iv). Limp shake – this is very bad;  the non-verbal statement is: “No”.
(v). Two-handed double clasp –  This is confident and near dominant behavior,  possibly a tad pushy. The non-verbal statement is: ” I am being true blue, trustworthy and I accept your hospitality”.  
b) Drawing fingers: Playing with one’s fingers is distracting and shows insecurity; the non-verbal statement is: “I want to run away”.
c) Putting hands away:  It is suggestive of secrecy; the non-verbal statement is: “I am not interested in you”. 
d) Making a fist: It is indicative of anger and acceptance to the use of aggression; the non-verbal statement is: “I want to hit you”.
e) Offering an open hand: It is suggestive of welcome; the non-verbal statement is: “I am interested in you”.
f) Jingling keys or change: This fidgeting behaviour shows nervousness or tension; the non-verbal statement is: “I am not happy being here”.
g) Pulling at pants: It signifies disbelief; the non-verbal statement is: “I don’t believe in you as a person and what you are saying”.
h) Fiddling wedding ring (by a man): It indicates to me that something is wrong with his current relationship; the non-verbal statement is: “I am not free and clear. My suggestion is:  “Run like the wind”.
i) Stroking a tie (by a man): It signifies to me that he earnestly wants to make a good impression; the non-verbal statement is: “Stop and look at me …slow down take a really good look!”
j) Hand steeple gesture (upwards): This complex hand move signifies that I am a thoughtful person, showing confidence; the non-verbal statement is: “I am intelligent and smart just like Mr Spock, Sherlock Holmes, etc.;
k) Hand steeple gesture (downwards): This complex hand move more often used by women; the non-verbal statement is: “I am a good listener”.
21. Hand signs 
21.1 “OK” hand sign: Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad:  a) Western democracies: Everthing is alright! b)  Japan: Money; c) France: Zero! (worthless)  d) Turkey:  Gay; e) Germany:  Something rude;  f) Greece: Something obscene;
21.2. Churchill’s  “V” sign: Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad. a)  Outside hand – the message is: “Up yours”; b) Inside hand (Europe) – Seeing that in medieval times, a victorious army might cut off the two fingers of an archer from the losing army, this sign is indicative of removing your offensive or defensive capability;  
21.3 Thumbs up sign: Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad. a) Canada, China, etc.:  Good; b)  Australia, Iran: The message is: “Up yours”; c) Nigeria: The expletive is: “F??k”
21.4 Beckoning finger (calling) gesture: Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad. a) Phillipines: Something nasty; b)  Asia:  The non-verbal statement is: “Welcome,  please come in and spend money (it’s also good luck.)  
21.5 Pointing finger ‘like a gun’ gesture: Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad. a)  This is indicative of someone angry and unfriendly; and if poking, it signifies dominance, anger, aggressiveness, the threat of assault; the non-verbal statement is: “Don’t come closer”.
21.6  Stop gesture (5 fingers):  Depending where you are in the world, it could be good or bad. a)  Turkey – It says: “You’ll get nothing out of me”.  b) West Africa – It says: “5 fathers”;  c) Greece – It is highly insulting;
Body language will shed light on a potential suitor (for women) and a future love interest (for men). Stop, look and listen to the signals being sent loud and clear. Have a LOVELY Valentine’s Day!*
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S & R* CHOICE ANECDOTAGE #1: Julia Sweeney: Pat
“Julia Sweeney once revealed the inspiration behind her classic character – the androgynous “Pat” – on “Saturday Night Live”: “I’d been an accountant for like five years, and there was one person I worked with in particular who had a lot of mannerisms like Pat. This person sort of drooled and had the kind of body language of Pat. I started trying to do him. I was testing it out on my friends and they were just like, ‘Yeah, it’s good, but it doesn’t seem like a guy that much.’ Like I couldn’t quite pull off being in drag convincingly enough. So then I thought, maybe that’s the joke. I’ll just have one joke in here about we don’t know if that’s a man or a woman just to sort of cover up for my lack of ability to really play a guy convincingly!”
(Source: Anecdotage) –
S & R* CHOICE ANECDOTAGE #2: Muammar Qaddafi: Body Language
“In March 2004, Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi met with British Prime Minister Tony Blair for a widely-televised interview in a tent in the desert. Only later did Blair learn that showing another man the soles of one’s feet, as Qaddafi did (to Blair) throughout the interview, was understood by Arabs as a major sign of disrespect.”
(Source: Anecdotage) –
S & R* CHOICE ANECDOTAGE #3:Nixon Down Under
“One day during his presidency, Richard Nixon landed in Australia for a state visit. As he stepped from the plane, Nixon made a peace sign (as was his custom) to signify solidarity with his Aussie hosts. Some time later he was delicately informed that, in Australia, the so-called ‘peace sign’ (unless the palm is facing out) is the equivalent of an American display of the middle finger.”
(Source:  Anecdotage) –
S & R* QUOTE #1: Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Write it on your heart that every day is the best day in the year. No man has learned anything rightly, until he knows that every day is Doomsday.”
 (Source: Wisom Quotes) –
S & R* QUOTE #2: Benjamin Franklin
“Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time, for that the stuff life is made of.”
(Source: Wisdom Quotes) –
S & R* QUOTE #3: Captain Jean-Luc Picard
“Time is a companion that goes with us on a journey. It reminds us to cherish each moment, because it will never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we have lived. played by Patrick Stewart, from the film “Star Trek: Generations”
(Source: Wisdom Quotes) –
“For today, my word/phrase(s) are:  “body language”;
Body Language
“Body language is a form of mental and physical ability of human non-verbal communication, which consists of body posture, gestures, facial expressions, and eye movements. Humans send and interpret such signals almost entirely subconsciously.”
(Source: Wikipedia the free encyclopedia) –
“It is important to note that some indicators of emotion (e.g. smiling/laughing when happy, frowning/crying when sad) are largely universal;[citation needed],[4] however in the 1990s Paul Ekman expanded his list of basic emotions, including a range of positive and negative emotions, not all of which are encoded in facial muscles.[13] The newly included emotions are:
A study in body language.
1. Amusement
2. Contempt
3. Contentment
4. Embarrassment
5. Excitement
6. Guilt
7. Pride in achievement
8. Relief
9. Satisfaction
10. Sensory pleasure
11. Shame
Body language signals may have a goal other than communication. People would keep both these two in mind. Observers limit the weight they place on non-verbal cues. Signalers clarify their signals to indicate the biological origin of their actions. Examples would include yawning (sleepiness), showing lack of interest (sexual interest/survival interest), attempts to change the topic (fight or flight drivers).
Physical expression
“Physical expressions like waving, pointing, touching and slouching are all forms of nonverbal communication. One of the most basic and powerful body-language signals is when a person crosses his or her arms across the chest.[6] This can indicate that a person is putting up an unconscious barrier between themselves and others. Consistent eye contact can indicate that a person is thinking positively of what the speaker is saying. It can also mean that the other person doesn’t trust the speaker enough to “take their eyes off” the speaker. Lack of eye contact can indicate negativity Disbelief is often indicated by averted gaze, or by touching the ear or scratching the chin.Boredom is indicated by the head tilting to one side, or by the eyes looking straight at the speaker but becoming slightly unfocused.Interest can be indicated through posture or extended eye contact, such as standing and listening properly.[citation needed] Deceit or the act of withholding information can sometimes be indicated by touching the face during conversation. Excessive blinking is a well-known indicator of someone who is lying. Recently[when?], evidence has surfaced that the absence of blinking can also represent lying as a more reliable factor than excessive blinking. [7″
(Source: Wikipedia the free encyclopedia) –
WOZA gives roses as a symbol of love and peace on Valentine’s Day This Valentine’s Day, courageous women in Zimbabwe will be handing out paper roses in the streets. Jenni Williams, the leader of Women of Zimbabwe Arise (WOZA), has lost count of how many times she has been arrested maybe 37 or 38, she says. Jenni and her colleague, Magodonga Mahlangu, are only two of the many women who have been arrested, ill-treated, intimidated and harassed for their peaceful human rights work in this southern African country. Members often give out paper roses during their peaceful marches to symbolize their slogan of love and peace. At a Valentine’s Day event in Bulawayo last year, WOZA marched with banners proclaiming The Power of Love can conquer the Love of Power and handed out roses to the public. Three of the 53 women arrested had simply been watching. At trial, the prosecutor decided against legal action, and the activists walked free after paying fines.WOZA was formed in 2003 to defend human rights amidst the political violence in Zimbabwe, and continues their work today by mobilizing to improve living conditions for all Zimbabweans. WOZA members organize vocal and colourful peaceful demonstrations to protest
government policies that lead to a worsening social, economic and human rights situation in the country. Police arrest even children, women carrying babies and pregnant women. Officers release many without charge, but take advantage of repressive legislation such as the Public Order and Security Act and the Miscellaneous Offences Act to charge some of them.The government, in an effort to prevent public protest and criticism of its policies, has become increasingly intolerant of the work of human rights defenders and is actively seeking to silence them. WOZA members will continue by peaceful means to use their freedom to meet together and criticize government policy. Members of Amnesty International around the world are calling for the protection of WOZA members and all human rights defenders in Zimbabwe. A free information kit about how to help protect the rights of people in Zimbabwe and other countries around the world is available from Amnesty International, 1992 Yonge Street, Suite #315, Toronto, Ontario, M4S 1Z7, or

S & R* NEWS ALERT* #2: Tips for singles on Valentine’s Day By Maja Begovic
Valentine’s Day can conjure up feelings of loneliness for those without a mate. But being alone is cheaper, easier, and it’s probably better than going out on some random date, or being with a person you’ve been meaning to break up with for months. If you don’t have a date, don’t stay at home and pout. Here are some ideas to help you celebrate the day of love:
1. Realize that Valentine’s Day is a commercial holiday. It is not about love and relationships; it is about selling flowers, candy, and diamond jewelry. Think of all the money you are saving.
2. Plan well in advance to do something that will not place you in the path of cooing couples. Even if you usually like dining out alone, do something else on Valentine’s Day.
3. Resist the temptation to turn off your phone and crawl into bed early. Book a deep tissue massage at a fantastic spa, followed by a manicure and pedicure. Host a fondue party or a potluck at your house, or grab a few single friends and book a sightseeing flight over your city.
4. Do you know a couple with children who never go out because they just don’t feel they can afford a babysitter? Offer them a free night of babysitting and let them enjoy a romantic night out.
5. Nothing spreads the love faster than doing a little volunteer work. Take time to remember your good fortune and learn about how you can help improve the lives of children living in poverty through a non-profit organization like Christian Children’s Fund of Canada (
6. If you are single, but would rather not be, think about what is standing in the way of you and a new relationship. Find ways to work on becoming the person your dream partner would fall in love with. Start therapy. Take up yoga. Take action to change the world. It is into the fullest lives that love is most likely to fall.
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